Is Free Wifi Illegal? - Comments Page 2

I am a bit confused with all of the "it would be like" analogies. This is a whole new concept and not really "like" anything else. The question should be limited to "is this specific action wrong?" not "this is wrong, because it is like this other thing and that is wrong". It would be like saying "My house is green. mari is green. mari is illegal, so my house should be illegal. come on. We could say it is LIKE just about anything. and it is especially NOT like burglarizing someone's house. I shouldn't even have to explain how ridiculous that comparison is.

EDITOR'S NOTE: First you argue that no analogy should be allowed. Then you accept the analogy and suggest that it is flawed. That's like double-speak... :-)

Besides unauthorized accessing public, free Wi-fi another consequence the owner's computer might be hacked or compromised by hackers. Yup! Pay first before attemping connection. LOL I did that allooong time ago on some cafe and link to a wi-fi provider page. Maybe they should put a Provide page as well

perhaps wifi should be produced for 'password' only use.then no wifi site would be 'unprotected,or open',and if you are 'invited' to a parking lot to use it for free,the password could be posted for all invitees to see. sounds like a good idea to me.

The first thing that came to mind was the FCC rules on reception of transmissions. Are the signals we are transnmitting any different than the little hand-held radios that are very common now? I don't think any state or local government trumps the Feds. Second thing was how can theft of services apply to somthing that is free?(Coffee shop.) Next, and I'm sure this will be very unpopular.How did we allow a law that makes it illegal, to have a picture of something that is illegal? Can the powers that be, tell what has passed through my router? Does a router make copies or have a memory? Laws like this(wifi)would/will help to erode our freedoms and liberties. Secure your goods, and don't worry. I'm tired of protecting the stupid,ignorant,lazy, with nusence laws. Lastly why do we really care.People who feel violated by this probably feel violated by most things.(and walk thier dog in someone elses yard) Yes,If you park in front of my house to get my wifi that would be creepy, but it would be strange regardless of the circumstances,stopping there to make a phone call,read a map what ever. I hope my neighbor doesn't play his radio to loud I might hear it! Oh yea,I can't cut or paste yet.But my systems are secure,I hope.

According to the FCC, the airwaves are free. In other words, it is legal to capture anything broadcast. Yes, anything. This is how radar detector cases are fought in states that attempt to outlaw such devices. It is a radio receiver, the speed device emits radio waves, and the receiver picks up the waves. Federal law allows this to happen. Why do you think we can listen to police radio? It is incumbent upon the broadcaster to encrypt broadcasts.

I think we need a law saying that anyone who chooses not to secure a WIFI spot is inviting it's use by any user within range. The interloper takes nothing of permanent value, except perhaps a bit of bandwidth when the owner is online, and that can be recovered simply by securing the network. It should, of course, continue to be illegal for the interloper to attempt access data on any other computer on that network.

EDITOR'S NOTE: In some places, there are laws that do exactly the opposite. Failure to secure your wifi is illegal!

Darn and I thought I was doing my part by contributing to an open free society.. I have nothing worth taking on my computer or in my identity. I freely share most of what I own with certain boundaries to keep my self respect and to keep me safe. The only thing you can not have is my son or my dog_for those I will fight to the death, as will they. Drive by if you want, access is open. Most folks I know on the road share theirs as well. Guess I may hear from the airwave Nazis one day. This from a gal who leaves her outside water faucet unlocked so that passers by can grab a drink or can fill water for their dogs. (It is located outside of my secure gate_ and I pay for my water) To this day no one has abused it. But that will be our next reason to go to war.Water. Then maybe airwaves.

Thank you for the article and info. However, if you get arrested because of connecting into someone's unsecured wifi, then the wifi owner should also get fined for violating your air space and sending the signal beyond its useful perimeter and into your computer. May be an attorney can start something going.

EDITOR'S NOTE: Violating your air space??? If my tree casts a shadow on your lawn, am I violating your sun space? If I leave candy in a dish on my desk, am I violating your temptation threshhold? Yes, let's call in the lawyers!

Thanks for the insight. Intuitively, I believed there were legal ramifications to using wifi resources without permission. It's good to see it spelled out. There is some merit in the perspective of some that leaving a resource unprotected invites others to take advantage. That being said, it is still inherently dishonest. Looking at it another way, is that behavior we would use as examples for our children or grandchildren? Thanks also for the link to the State-by-State law references on this subject.

I used to get yelled at by my stepfather for using wifi at home to do my high school/college work. I would also use a few social sites but I didn't see the harm in using an unsecured network to get some work done or to socialize. To be honest I still don't see the problem with using an unsecured network. As for what was stated in the article, downloading illegal music? Looking at child p**nography? How many people are going to be blamed for that through wireless access? I doubt it holds merit in court or that it is as common as it was implied in the article above. I really see no problem in using unsecured networks because most people use passwords if they bother to set it up. And how is using PUBLIC unsecured hot spots illegal? I mean sure its polite to go in and buy a coffee or buy a burger at McDonalds but seriously? Arresting someone for using an advertised hot spot? Well then I should be in jail for getting through my college work by using unsecured networks in public places (EI Library, McDonalds, ect).

I think that if it's unsecured it's like an open invitation. You're providing a service so people will go there. Are people gonna abuse that, sure, but they're going to have a good image about you for it.

If you don't want people hanging out lock the door with some sort of security. It says, keep out pretty loudly.

I think that transmitting any broadcast signal that is in the open should be legal. I also think that if one doesn't want someone else using their Wi-Fi connection then it should be security with WEP or WAP. I also think that there should be some conformity of the laws from state to state.

We are facing an interesting challenge. We are being sued for accessing an adjacent business's WiFi over a 3-year period. The WiFi is not password protected. There is a sign on the front of the business advertising free Wifi. There are not qualifiers, such as "WiFi for customers and guests." We have frequently made purchases from the business, which is a concession on public land. At one point, a family member inquired about using the WiFi and the employee said, "Sure, it's for everyone." People visiting the area drive to the business parking lot or along the road to use the WiFi during and after store hours. As we have asked around, no one has heard of anyone being told not to use the WiFi. I had never heard of the term "piggybacking" until the threat of a lawsuit surfaced. I wanted to work from the cabin and needed a higher quality signal, so we subscribed to an internet service more than a year ago. Thoughts or advice?

EDITOR'S NOTE: I'm not a lawyer, but my advice would be to make your case in court just as you've done here.