Hotmail Gets A New Outlook

Here's a link to the Mozilla knowledgebase article that talks about filters in Thunderbird: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Filters_(Thunderbird)

It states: "Enabled filters are run automatically, in the order they are listed in the "Message Filters" dialog ("Tools -> Message Filters..."). If a filter moves a message to another folder subsequent filters will not be automatically applied to that message once it has been moved from the Inbox. There is no built-in support for automatically running filters on outgoing mail. Install the Send Filter add-on if you want to do that."

EDITOR'S NOTE: Okay, but this comment seems out of place on an article about Hotmail/Outlook.

Have set up email accounts with live, outlook and gmail. Realized my choice is an easy one as I have an Android cell phone. So gmail it is. Outlook looks tempting and I've also heard gmail has fewer viruses. Appreciate your well written report on Outlook.

I am so glad I subscribed to your newsletter. I will be migrating everything to my gmail account now. What ever happened to, "If its not broke don't fix it?"
So tired of being pushed to change when I don't want to. Just making improvements would have been enough.

So.... would it work on the mac platform as gmail does so well?

EDITOR'S NOTE: It's all web-based, so yes.

" days ago I was invited to morph my Hotmail account with Outlook. I did so and found several of the basic functions were not working so i switched back to Hotmail;all seemed well. Then my son signed me out to sign himself in which he did successfully and now I cannot sign my self back in. I click on ' cant access my account' and it denies my address is in existence. HELP!

Steered away from Hotmail on the basis of an earlier article from you suggesting Hotmail security was not not so good and that Gmail's security features were better. Where are we now? Can't consider using a suspect email service. Thanks Bob.

EDITOR'S NOTE: Looks like they've gotten with the program, and are using HTTPS for outlook.com now.

Hi Bob ,

Switched over from my hotmail to try and switched back pretty quickly. Don't like the colours - blue on white isn't as clear as black on white, typeface is too large. I don't see why they couldn't have done the integrations without radically changing Hotmail's look. I already have an option to use Skydrive in existing Hotmail. Microsoft has an unfortunate prediliection for doing things that people don't want and roling them in with something that they do. I mean, who really wants Windows 8 touch screen on a desktop or even a decent size laptop for that matter?

Debbie,
To get back to hotmail, just click the "cog" at the top right, then "return to hotmail" on the pull-down menu.

I don't really care if my email account is a portal to anything else. I originally took on Hotmail because it was free and it was not MS. When they took over I just let it slide because it didn't seem to change. Now i am a linux user so I plan to dump hotmail entirely. I have a gmail account and a Yahoo account so no real loss. I just didn't want to put my friends through the name change earlier.

Yahoo is practically useless to me since freepops quit working with it. I prefer pop3 access or imap in a pinch but don't care for webmail. Using one email program to collect all my accounts is the way to go.

How do you archive a received email in Outlook? I do not see any archive feature like in Gmail.

I can't find the options to customize how Hotmail works in Outlook as well as my Contacts list.
As you might expect, I don't use Chrome or Explorer because they hide all the simple options I have with Firefox such as the Menu bar and the Bookmarks bar..

Hotmail initially was the junkmail account I gave to businesses, but it ended up being my primary account a few years ago. While I also have gmail accounts, I had been extremely leary of jumping on the Google+ candywagon. In short, I am concerned that it is not healthy to have one private company who in possession of maybe 90+ percent of one's online data & electronic footprint. Emails, facebook, photos, online purchases, online searches, integrated medical records, banking transactions, credit card purchases... It feels a bit creepy, and dangerous.

At this point we trust all parties. But facebook has taken highly-contested actions when profit margins faltered. Same with many other businesses. What might happen three years out with all my personal data when Google, or Microsoft, etc. sculpts a new agreement under one of their companies/services in order to remain competitive and increase profits? How might my data be mined JUST WITHIN companies my host owns or controls? It makes me very squeamish. I'd like to see a dialogue about this.

@Debbie
To get back to hotmail, click on the gear icon next to your name on the top right. It will give an option to switch. Good Luck !!

I might be considered old fashion, but I still prefer and use AOL for my Email because I find it most intuitive to use. No problems.

Bob
I like your write up. I also have gmail that I use on occasion, but will give this new Outlook a try, you made it sound so good.
But, have had AOL for 20-years or so and am quite use to it, it would be nice if Outlook turns out to have a better system. Will let you know what I think.
Thanks

Love the new Outlook.com. Plan to use it to read and respond to e-mails in my various Gmail accounts. One-stop shopping.

Thanks for the great article; am using info from it tonight to give an Outlook.com presentation to my computer club members. Giving credit, of course, and encouraging my members to sign up to receive your very informative newsletter.

Features that would get me to switch:

(1) Powerful spam-fighting tool. It would be like SpamCop on steroids, with several rounds of analysis that would target ALL of the spammers' infrastructure, pursue ALL of the spammers' accomplices, and help and protect ALL of the spammers' victims.

(2) Clock features. There are so many possibilities that this would need to be strongly user configurable, but I can give some examples. A clock giving a easy visual image of how long ago the email was sent. A clock showing the correspondents time zone. A clock that you could use to schedule the email for future delivery, especially in cases of email that is going to a phone and you don't want to risk waking them in the middle of their night or business mail that should not be delivered until office hours.

By the way, the MAIN reason I'd consider using a Microsoft product is because I think they have become less evil over the years and they have actually done some good against the spammers upstream--and Feature (1) is targeted against the spammers downstream. The main reason I'm trying to use the google LESS is because they are rapidly becoming more and more evil. Did you know that the google has become the leading lobbyist among tech companies? I've read several reports to that effect.

It is good that "Microsoft’s SkyDrive cloud storage service is tied into Outlook.com." Is there a similar link for Gmail and Google Drive? If it does exist, how can one use it?

I had yahoo---hotmail---gmail---I detest all the ads and have run privacyfix several times---then I one day in a search found an email that is no ads!
I went to it, and I am still with it--several mos. later!