Partitioning Your Hard Drive - Comments Page 2

Disagree Bob, but I'm an experienced user. Keeping only windows and apps that MUST be on the C drive makes my weekly imaging to DVD much quicker and allows me to use only one disk for the image. The other partitions don't see nearly as many changes and thus need backing up/imaging less often.

this was a very helpful article; I was wondering about partitioning, but I forget that Uncle Bill and the elves are making life better for us all the time.

FWIW, I like 2 HDs, one for applications and the stuff Windows generates, and one for data only. has worked for me for years. I had both drives fail sequentially, oddly I had just backed up the data and it fried. No prob.

Month later, the C:\ drive fried. With bookmarks and address books backed up, almost no prob, but a pain to re-install all the little applications I had picked up here and there. Note, of course, that I have bought and paid for Windows and Office in my hot little hands.

I agree 50%. Putting swap or pagefile in another partition in the same disk is not a good idea since its just make the disk head more busy. But putting it into another disk drive is good since its use another disk head to write and read and will increase performance. i also dont recommend to install programs on separate partition as this will also increase seek time.

I disagree for the next 50%. Having only 1 partition on a single disk drive may invite many trouble to come. if some powerloss occur and that only partition that hold everythings is going to corrupt (corrupted mft or boot sector maybe), and chkdsk cant theorically solve that, then the new empty hardisk is waiting (means the data is unrecoverable). all 5-years effort to collect all that mp3 and movie will be such a waste. n i found that having multiple partition but not too many, will help manage the file in the better way, even beginer have the same feeling like this. we set c: as windows only(swap file n programs also) and d: as data only(mp3, movies, installer etc), we absolutely can easily remember on which partition the data resides. we dont have to remember our data in a folder that resides deep in the single partition. this will also decrease the size of mft for 1 partition and will prevent the mft to be easily fragmented. also if the single partition become fragmented, the partition will take much time to be defrag than having multiple partition. we know which drive to defrag and skip the aprtition that is not heavily fragmented. also when a single file become fragmented, the fragment piece will scatter throughout the drive. let say explorer.exe is fragmented and 2 piece in the top, 5 piece in the middle and the other piece separately in the bottom. explorer.exe will take much time to load as the disk head need to travel far from top to bottom of disk just for 1 file.

Guru Bob, When my FAT32 vs NTFS searches yielded (in technical terms) oodles and gobs of hits, and I saw the name Bob Rankin, I naturally checked this article first.

Interestingly, in spite of the article title ("Partitioning Your Hard Drive") and especially the first major section of the article ("How to Partition Your Hard Drive"), the article is about whether to (viz., why NOT to) partition a hard drive: It includes NO information on HOW to partition a hard drive.

For those of us who, after reading and considering your sage advice, still (think we) have a legitimate reason for partitioning a hard drive, could/would you tell us HOW to do so -- PLEASE? (If you have done so somewhere else, and I missed it, I apologize.)

EDITOR'S NOTE: In http://askbobrankin.com/changing_disk_partitions.html I mentioned that Windows has a command line utility called Diskpart, which I recommend for experts. Other commercially available and user-friendly programs for managing partitions include Partition Magic and Acronis Partition Expert.

I also disagree with a single partition. OS and installed progs on C:, ALL data on D: and then arbitrary collections of downloads, mp3s, multimedia junk, etc. on E:

Reformatting C: is then relatively easy (keep copy of favourites and other user customised files or settings). Backup crucial data from D: and make sure any downloads from E: get archived off to DVD if you want to keep for good.

If HDD crashes, C can always be recreated from original media or archived installation file (that's the stuff I archive to DVD from E). D is the crucial Data that must be backed up rigorously.

I, on the other hand feel that the only way I can get done what I need is to partition. I need to be able to run some MS-DOS programs on my current (vista) machine. A lot of commercial radio programming software is still being released in DOS. As I understand the only way I can accomplish this is to partition and load DOS (prolly 6.2) in the new partition. Fortunately it won't take much room (smile).

Interesting article and reasoning. I came here to see if I could get any ammunition ;) because this is a topic that is the source of a longstanding family discussion. My father partitions every computer he buys using Partition Magic into at least 12 partitions. Why 12? I don't know. And every computer he has bought ends up with various unexplainable problems that no tech support can solve until ultimately the computer manufacturers take the computer back and give him a new one. And it starts all over again. He's convinced that partitions are perfection in the universal order of things (he can defrag in 5 minutes!); some of us think they cause his problems. He is not a geek and does not possess a great deal of technical knowledge. Years ago a few of the guys in his computer club (retired men) told him partitioning was great! and even though his IT-guru daughter-in-law said partitioning could be very problematic for little benefit, she obviously was wrong (did you know he can defrag in 5 minutes?!) because everyone is partitioning! Ah, the road to eternally crashed computers is paved with good intentions.

Anyway, thank you for the arguments. Since my father *just* went through this again with his new megamegaGB 64bit computer 2 weeks ago... maybe I'll try to talk some sense into him one more time.

Here are my thoughts for Windows XP and Vista:
1.) Install only the core OS essential files on an appropriately sized "C" (core) partition - create a 40GB for Vista and 20 GB for XP regardless of the versions or service packs.
2.) Create a 20GB (or larger) "D" partition for other data and applications.
3.) Install Microsoft apps and any other critical apps on C:\Program Files directory. Install all other apps on D:\Program Files and/or C:\Program Files if need. Save other large data (e.g. music, videos, application logs or DBs) to directories on D:\ as well.
4.) Tell all applications to save their data and/or log files to a directory, DB, or repository on the "D" partition. The Windows OS registry should point and reference to entries on the "C" partition for critical apps and others required to be installed on C:\. The application preference settings would point to DBs, logs, repository files, etc. You could even put the DBs, logs, repository files, etc. on another machine and point to it across a data network, or even an external HD, flash drive, etc.
5.) Spend the time to get the core "C" partition carved appropriately, OS installed and optimized, critical apps installed, and then make an image of the entire "C" partition and store somewhere to push to other HDs for duplication or restoration.
6.) For Windows operating systems you'll want to keep as much off the CORE OS partition as possible to proactively reduce corruption to the operating system.

PJ

One more vote for more than one partition. I have Windows and all programs on C: partition. All data files are on D: partition.
I save an image of C: partition as you recommend, whenever major changes are made. I save a backup of changed files on D: partition every day, plus a full image every week.
WHAT IF everything was on one partition? Imagine having to make a full image of the entire disk every week -- perhaps a hundred GB, when only a few dozen files have changed. Sounds like overkill to me.

After much loss of money..I got smart I agree with Bob I just put another HD in the machine and installed XP Pro..Vista on the other...I named the drives and have no problem...it is possible to save stuff to your other drive...you just have to reboot for the other system...for me this works quite well

Hello, all you very smart people. I can see the sense in many of these comments, however, one would have to be a guru herself to understand, create, and maintain systems like these. I used to be a technical writer, and even though I'm sure I could figure out how to set up my system like one of these, they seem overly complicated and a pain in the butt to backup and maintain. Because of this, I would tend to agree with Bob. For most people, the simpler the better. I am currently very irritated with my factory set 20GB/20GB partitions because C:/ filled up very quickly and started shouting at me to delete stuff. It's so full that I can't even defragment. I would have preferred one partition, or at least a very large C:/ for all the apps and a smaller D:/ for the data. Some warning that the partitions existed might have been helpful as well, but that's just the usability stickler in me. That's my $.02.

Partition your hard drive so that you always remember that in the real world, knowing about mount points and fstab entries are useful tech factoids. Most web servers run on *nix based systems. Here endeth the lesson...

EDITOR'S NOTE: Well, Professor, I'm afraid your lesson plan needs a little tweaking. If you're a unix sysadmin, you might care about fstab entries, but even so, I don't think they have much to do with how your partition your disk.

I beg to differ with you sir, especially Myth 1. While you can't use the programs you installed on drive D: after a reinstall, other data on that drive are safe. Think of a scenario where you save all your files (including docs, music, movies, etc in D:) and your system gets infected. If you are confident that you have nothing to lose if you format C:, you can save lots of time by reinstalling Windows rather than troubleshooting. While I like like the idea of troubleshooting, it's not for everyone. Secondly, installing all your apps including huge games in C: will only make things difficult for your HDD as it has to seek for data within a huge partition and that increases the seek time.