Will Ello Be a Facebook Killer? - Comments Page 1

I don't have a problem with ads being on my page, but I am annoyed with how hard it is to scroll with a Windows 8.1 touch screen without accidentally touching one and having its page cover what I'm trying to look at. [Ending a sentence with preposition isn't a crime in my book.]

Will try at the first opportunity. FB and other sites have way too many abstractions. I like to do one thing at a time & do it well!

My first question about Ello was: "How do they expect to pay for it?"

I requested an invite, because I request invites to (nearly) everything new, but I don't think their model is promising. Apparently I'm not alone, because why else would Ello's founders have taken $435k in venture capital?

https://aralbalkan.com/notes/ello-goodbye/

I have no problem with ads, even on my Note 2, where I have no ad blocker (and the ad blocker on my PC allows unobtrusive advertising), so this seems to me to be the answer to a problem that exists only in the minds of the hyper-sensitive.

I worked on the old bulletin boards for a number of years. All these social media websites are basically the same. The subject they discuss are boring. Also they are very dangerous because of ID Theft and numerous other reasons. People that don't even know you wants to be your friend. There are ads galore. I've seen what it looks like, but I wouldn't have anything to with that URL.

I'm just glad that you caught them using a preposition to end a sentence with :-)

I haven't done any research, so this is just a whimsical comment. I predict Ello will be a big bump comprised primarily of elitists and younger people who want to prove to the previous generations (ie, anyone older than 20) that they are vastly superior simply because they don't use the 'old fashioned' social media.

i checked out Ello. they've got some significant HTML issues and the visible layout isn't very logical, but hell anything's better than facebook

Bob:
Requested access, for now. It has to be better than Google+.

ello? There is nothing beautiful about snobbery. Invitation? Really? Get serious people.

This quote grabbed my attention because a few weeks ago, my computer did just that ... my monitor screen is black and the icons are a normal color. How did that happen and how can I change it back to my normal? I have asked that famous website but have not read a decent answer. BTW, Bob, you have a great website and I love reading it each time. I have learned so much from you. Keep up the good work!

Regarding web ads, I'm sorry but I find it very distracting to have flashing and blinking ads on the sides of a text that I am trying to read, so that I still gladly use Flashblock unless a website that I want to visit won't allow it--and those are very few, so far.

I remember when you couldn't get on Google+ without an invite- it's just a way to make people more interested. Yawn. I use Adblock Plus on Chrome and it seems to work on FB (and elsewhere), though, like you, the ads aren't that intrusive. There is room out there for all types of social networks, so I wish Ello well.

Well, of course you don't see a problem with ads...your page is full of them ;-) Worth it to support your wonderful website.

I wish Ello luck, although they may need to raise the fees a bit. I'm not into the whole social media thing myself, for many of the reasons that Ello was created. I hope they stay "pure," but I won't hold my breath. And I won't be begging for an "invitation" anytime soon.

I actually don't mind ads on web pages, as long as they are to the side and I have the choice whether or not to click, which I actually do, sometimes, just to support the page. Privazer does a wonderful job of clearing out all the tracking bumf so I can remain relatively anonymous when I do visit an ad-sponsored page. The ones that absolutely infuriate me are the little double-underlined ones in the meat of the article; you end up with an annoying pop-up right where you're trying to read, just from a mouse-over. Hint, Hint.

"But advertising is what makes quality television and radio possible"

Not here Bob, the BBC produces some great quality TV without one single advert.

On the other hand we have to pay a TV licence whether we watch anything on the BBC or not.

Only in the UK?

Doesn't adblocker (ABP) work on Facebook?

Jon

Meh! Facebook, Ello, Twitter, LinkedIn... you can keep them all. No interest.
As for ads, I must say I get awfully tired of ads that pop up as I'm trying to read, one after the other. As soon as I find the way to close one, up pops the next. And then there are the video ads that start up as you're trying to read. And the sites that add so many advertisements to the page that the back arrow doesn't work. Almost enough to make me chuck it all. Almost...

What I don't like about forced fed advertising is the very thing marketers are so proud of....the lack of diversity. If I look at a desk, for example, suddenly I've got a thousand desks shoved at me, under the assumption that I am of the 1% and can actually use a desk for every room of my multiple houses, I guess. The truth is: one house, only need one desk, and, once I buy it, I don't need another. No matter how many million desks you show me, once I bought one, I won't buy another for a very long time. The difference between television and the force fed model is that I may see randomly an advertisement on television that I will become interested in even though I was not looking for it (when this randomness is eliminated, I turn the sound off and walk away). And I have purchased from chance encounters. I just hate having ads trail me from site to site, and they are all boringly about the same thing which shows a deficit of imagination from the privacy sucking marketers who apparently don't know very much at all about marketing or about me despite their efforts to suck the marrow from my bones. Or maybe I'm just too different a customer to bother with.

Bob, in checking out Ello ... I found it, to be more for the younger generation, 25+. Some excellent Graphic Designers are on Ello and some being more of a sexual aspect. Trust me, I am not opposed to sexual materials and what I saw, was very respectful ... I just don't care to view it, is all. Again, I don't oppose it, I simply don't care for it.

Now, having said all of that ... The interface of Ello is very, very basic, which I happen to like. I don't care to see other Ello pages, I want to only see my own family and friends comments and pages, should they even bother to join.

Do I think, Ello will be successful ... No ... Any more than Google+ is. Facebook is the most accepted social media, on the planet and that isn't going to change, anytime soon. Do I like Facebook ... NO!!! I still have my account, but, only check Facebook, once or twice a week. I found that it is sooooooooooooo easy, to become additive to Facebook, much like many computer users were with emails, a decade ago.

I'm with Daniel (Oct. 2) on this one. There's nothing particularly attractive or appealing about the site - just looks like it's going to appeal to entirely different demographic than FB.

Call me "hypersensitive" but I hate intrusive ads that disrupt my browsing experience, especially on mobile devices. I deactivated my FB account only because I was constantly irritated while trying to read through my timeline on my iPhone and not being able to tell real status updates from my friends vs. advertisements with their faces on them! I also detested the algorithm that FB employs to decide for me what posts I want to see...but I digress. I don't mind unobtrusive ads but that's almost never the case on a mobile device: they blink, they float in the middle of what you're reading, they dim the page and obscure what you're looking at until you find a way to dismiss them and some of them are so persistent that you CAN'T dismiss them. *sigh*

I might be just the type of person that Ello is targeting but their by-invitation model is going to seriously limit the number of people using their service and the fewer people using the service, the fewer people that can or will pay for "extras". The hardest thing about killing Facebook is getting enough people to participate (ask Google+) so exclusivity doesn't seem like the winning business model for a SOCIAL networking site...just my penny's worth.

WRONG, WRONG, WRONG - as far as the "what's wrong with ads?" attitude, buddy!

"what's the big deal about ads?" - you said it yourself - the privacy issues, having your info sold, etc. The point is, *I* should be the one who decides who can know what I choose for them to know about me. NO ONE should be allowed to collect any kind of info about me/my habits, period.

"But advertising is what makes quality television and radio possible" - uh, "quality"? Guess you don't watch much TV or listen to much radio nowadays as it is 98% CRAP, not quality!

"and is the reason you can get it for free" - really, I get TV for free? Then why do I pay the cable TV company for TV service? Guess when the next bill comes I will send them a letter that says - "well, I put up with these ads that make it free so I'm not paying this month". We'll see how that flies...

Wholeheartedly agree with Really?'s take though I think he/she's a little generous in estimating 98% of TV/radio is crap