Let My Phone Company Be My Online Identity – Are You Kidding? - Comments Page 2

Public-Private key encryption is *not* the heart of Project Verify. Per Brian Kreb's report, the phone companies are "leveraging data elements unique to each customer’s phone and mobile subscriber account, such as location, customer reputation, and physical attributes of the device" and "information about components inside the customer’s phone that are only accessible to the carriers themselves."

That is very different than a PKI scheme in which the customer (not any third party like the phone company) holds their own private keys. I don't trust any system in which someone else holds my keys.

See GRC's SQRL system for a true PKI-based password replacement.

When the airline knows my income will the price go up or down?

If I don't have a key will special offers be hidden because I'm presumed to be an old fart? And if there's an error in contained info we have no way of knowing let alone changing it.

Like so many things it works for about 80% and the others are just out of luck.

Lessee... Data harvesting in the name of security by entities known to have been hacked at sometime or another on poorly secured devices with plans I have to pay through the nose ford. What a wonderful idea, right up there with openly publishing all my personal details on every internet site. like, what could go wrong?

Oh, wait. I don't have a smart phone. Does this mean they will give me one and pay for my data plan? Gee, what a kind offer!

Lessee... Data harvesting in the name of security by entities known to have been hacked at sometime or another on poorly secured devices with plans I have to pay through the nose ford. What a wonderful idea, right up there with openly publishing all my personal details on every internet site. like, what could go wrong?

Oh, wait. I don't have a smart phone. Does this mean they will give me one and pay for my data plan? Gee, what a kind offer!

I am an old fart who does not get my service from one of these companies because I don't use my phone enough to warrant wasting that much money for service. And I would trust them about as much as I would trust the government saying I'm here to help you along with these companies. NO WAY!!!!

About 50% of the populace will blindly dive into this. They don't read EULA's or understand the outcome of the last election. Seems the developers don't fully trust this either, since Financial Institutions will be exempt. Evidently.... they know everything is crack-able and don't want to cover H-U-G-E banking loses. Everyone is in search of the "mark of the Beast"....

Until Anonymous and some white hat hackers create something like an identity VPN system, with multiple identities and multiple fake data for all such sites, there's no way that I would even think of using this sort of verification.
As they always said on the X-Files: trust no one! I'd say that especially applies in this case.

That's what Bit Coin said every time they were hacked.

That's what Experian said before and after they were hacked.

That's what x said before I was hacked....

The comments posted thus far confirm that you were correct Bob in assuming your readers would not participate, but there are so many who will blindly follow this insane, IMO, idea.
Lajoes is correct in his comments about hacking, and I cannot ever imagine handing over all our info to the phone company!
BTW, my phone company don't really "like" me because I have a flip phone, with no data plan, and won't accept their constant offers to "upgrade" so I expect they will really, really dislike me when I won't sign up for this!

A stupid idea; about as unintelligent as the suggestion of putting your passport on to your mobile! If I want my identity stolen and life taken over, I'm quite capable of being stupid myself without any assistance from a mobile phone providor or ISP. Given the number of major hacks over the last few years, would you trust these people to keep you safe? The recent BA hack was 22 lines of code inserted into the baggage module - that is all it took!

No way, Jose. I do not let any website, provider, etc. "remember" me. I have been a victim of data breaches and am very careful about my ID on line. These providers can go **** themselves. I'd never subscribe to this kind of stupidity.

It will be a cold day in Hell before I allow any company to provide a "secure" code to access any website.

It's all nonce-sense. I'll show myself out.

This brilliant conception is going to go down the rabbit hole along with other ideas that seemed good at the time.

This is an excellent example of executives who live in isolation from the rest of us normal folks. They haven't a clue as to "What could possibly go wrong?" while the majority of of us
(I hope) know exactly what could happen.
No way.

Hmmm...I wonder how well this program will work if the phone number is sourced from one of the no contract services.

No "smart" phone, just a simple one to call for service if I have auto breakdown, and use a land line at home. Another "old fart" type who loves and uses computer for my own projects but see no reason to buy into the idiot fantasies of those who think all life has to be on line. At current rate of web security I may go back to mailing checks, etc. But Silicon Valley has been indoctrinating the young and intends to rule the world by making every bit of life mindless. Thanks as usual for your valuable clarifications and advice.

Looks like I'll have a huge problem! I don't have a phone. Got rid of mine when all the Telemarketers kept calling and Do Not Call never worked.

My biggest question is, how long before they don't bother asking us, and just throw it into the next great "update to our site!" Since it seems not too many are keen on this, it will probably be incorporated into some FCC rulings and legislation at some point.

To nicely put it ... Over my DEAD BODY!!!

I don't trust any of the cell phone companies, period. They don't care anything about me or any of us, for that matter. This is just a way to stop the Feds from making them really do something, not that the Feds really care, either!

In fact, this is just as bad as the Credit Bureau Companies. They know almost everything about you and tell anyone who inquires about your Credit Records, but they won't tell you and it doesn't matter if all of the information is a lie or not!!! The Credit Bureaus and the Cell Phone Companies are NOT under elected officials by the people.

The FCC is NOT governed by the voters who elected them. They are appointed by the President and are usually with the same party.

The Credit Bureaus are completely different, they are private businesses, who keeps records of your business and it can be easily hacked, as proven last year!!! Plus, even if you know or learn that your identity is stolen ... NONE of the Credit Bureaus believe you and it costs you thousands and thousands of dollars to prove it!!! Needless to say, I really do hate the Credit Bureaus. I do NOT see any benefits from any of the 3 main Credit Bureaus.

Considering that Cricket is under the umbrella of AT&T, all of us Cricket users are "screwed", just like the rest of you who have regular Wireless service from the main companies. I may have to go back to buying minutes as needed from from other companies not with the big 4, AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile, and Sprint or even connected with them.