[TIP] The Windows 10 Secret Microsoft Won't Tell You - Comments Page 2

@Jo, entering the product key also creates the digital record on Microsoft's servers:

From: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/activation-in-windows-10

To use your Windows 7, Windows 8, or Windows 8.1 product key to activate Windows 10:

Select the Start Start button icon button, then select Settings > Update & security > Activation.
Select Change product key, and then enter the 25-character product key.

After Windows 10 is activated, a digital entitlement will be given to your device based on the product key you entered. This means that you’ll no longer need to enter a product key to activate Windows 10 on this device.

Do not try to upgrade to win10 from win7 on a Lenova machine and then try to go back to win7. It completely messed up going back and then would not do anything. Had to do a complete new install of win7. Will not buy another Lenova machine again.

@bob, Yesterday I downgraded to win7 from win10 on my friend's Lenovo laptop. You mentioned Lenova. Did you mean Lenovo? Also, did you downgrade within 30 days of the upgrade? My downgrade went successfully; no problems.

Thanks for raising this issue Bob. Like others I don't want Win 10 just yet. Do you know if I could swap my System drive (Win 8.1) with a spare drive and install Win 10 on it from a DVD and then swap back to my Win 8.1 drive. Then when I want Win 10 could I just swap drives again.

Bob, you say

"You can wipe your hard drive and do a clean installation of Windows 10, as many geeks prefer to do, using the Media Creation Tool to create a bootable CD or USB installation device."

I say you have to be quite a knowledgeable geek to do a fresh install of Windows 10 from a bootable disc or USB device due to the nightmare that is Secure Boot!

You also say
"Once you have your free digital entitlement, it’s yours forever. Should anything corrupt your Windows 10 installation, you can re-install it using the Media Creation tool without any trouble; no Product ID required.
"Once you have your free digital entitlement, it’s yours forever. Should anything corrupt your Windows 10 installation, you can re-install it using the Media Creation tool without any trouble; no Product ID required."

Does that remain true, even if users restore their computers back to factory settings?

What I am doing or have done. Made an image backup of the windows 7 hard drive. Acquired another hard drive. Which I installed in the computer. Recovered the backed up image 7 to the new HD. Then upgraded the new drive to windows 10. To switch from one hard drive to the other, power down, transfer the data cable from one drive to the other, then reboot.
Items: (that you should already have) Backup software. (I use Easeus Todo), a backup recovery CD made from the software, a removable backup hard drive. Another hard drive for the computer.
Using: I copy updated files to a flash drive and then copy to the other drive after rebooting. I can now work on a program, copy to flash, power down, move the data cable between hard drives, and reboot. I can go from windows 7 to windows 10 and then back to windows 7 in no more than the 3 minutes it takes to reboot the computer. Having your work on 2 drives is, also, an extra comfort factor.
As a suggestion, make an image copy of the windows 10 upgrade right after installing all the MSt updates. Once a month I do image back ups of both windows 7 and windows 10.

For those who don't know how to make an image I'll bet Bob has a book, but the one I bought is from the other computer guy I trust. Leo Notenboom. (ask leo com)

"Saved! Backing up with Macrium Reflect" (a FREE version of Macrium Image is available for download) by Leo A Notenboom. Available from Ask Leo website or directly from Amazon. Buy the print version then download a free digital copy using instructions in the book, not buying a Kindle version.

It is very straight forward and very easy to follow, with screen shots accompanying the text.

I am not a geek, but I found it simple to perform the image.

Could you not simply download the .iso file from Microsoft, extract it to a DVD, put it away in a jam jar, and then use it to install windows 10 whenever you felt like it? That would save all the upgrading and then later downgrading business.

Nothing against Bob. He supplies excellent tips. An Image of your Win7 install is a must, as others have stated. I purchased an external drive, in order to accomplish this task. I followed the procedure listed at the following - http://www.howtogeek.com/253901/get-windows-10-for-free-after-july-29th-with-a-little-prep-now/

It worked without a hitch. Updated 1 Desktop using this procedure, and now have a Laptop to update.

@Charles
Unless you have a multi-user license for Win 7, you are violating the EULA.
When you upgraded one drive from Win 7 to Win 10, your license was transferred to the new OS. Having a second copy of Win 7 using the same license is illegal. It is the same as using one license on multiple computers.
So, beware - you never know who may be reading these posts (MS, FBI, NSA, or Snowden).

The tragedy is that making an image is not always straightforward.
When it is not, it's almost impossible for even a typical knowledgable user to know what to do.
I have tried everything I can think of & used free Macrium & Easus tools to no avail.

I think that if MS expect people to seriously consider risking their OS install, then they need to provide much better diagnostic & compatability review tools.
Fat chance ?

Never in a Million,Trillion Years will I install Win 10!

Even IF I can REVERSE IT!!

NEVER! NEVER! NEVER! NEVER! NEVER! NEVER!

I was one of those win 7 lovers and I kept putting off the upgrade until it "forced" me to upgrade and I kept postpone the upgrade then all of the sudden one day I powered up and it installed win 10 without my permission or knowledge!

Regardless with all the hoopla about win 10 and 7. I was beginning to like win 10 with only one exception - I hated Edge browser, so used other browsers as its a LOT faster than edge!

I cloned my hard drive on both computers and updated the clones to W10.

My W8 PC runs W10 and its W8 drive is now a back up image of W10. My W7 PC clone drive was upgraded to W10 and it is set to dual drive. Once or twice a week i boot W10 and check for updates.

I prefer W7 as it is easier to find and turn off M$ stuff (that i don't want or need) that they have on by default. I prefer a plain desk top to a fancy layout and backgroung pictures etc. Also some of my old programs and my scannor, etc don't work on W10.

Windows 10 turns hard drives into bricks. Killed two laptops in the last month. So sick of Microsoft and the crap products.

July 20, 2016: Dell says that they will ***not*** be updating drivers for my computer should I "go for" Windows 10. Thus, I am not even going to try to install Windows 10--even though Microsoft says "OK" to my getting Windows 10. If Dell's not going to give support, then I will simply stay with my Windows 7.

A tad late in posting. Maybe some other poor soul will be in my position and will read this.

July 22.. just days before deadline I took the plunge and installed W10 and it is not for me.
I don't have a smart phone, kindle, laptop etc. only a desktop PC for email, surfing the web and
ordering products and of course downloading videos of ?? You get the jist .. old person who grew up with a party line. Thank you for information on how to use (and save for later) this technology that I am being dragged "kicking and screaming" into. Back to Windows 7 I go.

I thought you should know that if as I did, you upgraded to Windows 10 on the 28th July and now wish to roll it back, you can't! Microsoft have removed the facility to do so!

EDITOR'S NOTE: That should not happen. There has been no change to the 30-day rollback policy, for people who upgraded to Win10 prior to July 29.

I appreciate it shouldn't happen, and so far five Microsoft technicians have told me that it can't happen, but after 7.5 hours of them working on this problem they still haven't fixed it on my system.

I think they may have now worked out a solution because I have been asked to call them again today so that they can remotely work on the problem ( they've been on on my system more than I have for the last two days ), so we shall wait and see what happens! I can't fault them on the amount of effort they are putting into fixing the problem but it seems to me they're technicians need more training.

An update will follow.