[SNEAKY] Microsoft is Pushing Windows 10 Hard - Comments Page 2

Just checked via Ultimate Outsider as noted elsewhere in the comments, and Microsoft had my system primed and ready. Downloaded and ran the GWX Control Panel from Untimate Outsider and now the Microsoft Get Windows 10 icon is gone as is all the other downloads associated with Win10. Guess I will have to learn how and what Microsoft downloads that are routine upgrades to allow. Gonna be looking to you, Bob (and the community) for help. Hope I don't wear out my welcome.

I really am not (was not) ready for Windows 10. Just getting comforable and learning Win7.

This is a great service, Bob. Keep up the good work. Also, you have an incredible community that provides great information for tech-challenged folk like me. KUDOS to all!

For all of those asking about stopping Win10, go to: https://www.grc.com/never10.htm, download 'Never10' and run it. Issue solved, no more Win10 popups. No more Win10 takeovers!

Yes, we have excellent reason to be upset about this, but just being upset and avoiding Windows 10 will not help. I went ahead and upgraded-- AFTER I did a full system image of my existing Windows 7 systems (I didn't bother with my one Windows 8 computer, since Windows 8 is junk). I now have the ability to run legal Windows 7 on my computers and legal Windows 10. I have the disks and keys for both, and disk images for both. Fortunately, my computers do well on Windows 10, but if I ever get too upset over the changes they make then I have the option to go back to my tried and true Windows 7 systems. I don't see how they can force Windows 10 on me after the free upgrade period ends.

@Lois
Of course you can have Gmail, and everything else online with Ubuntu. Most printers also work very well with it. You can give it a trial run by burning a DVD with Ubuntu or putting it on a USB drive.

Had WIN 10 and was sucked into upgrade status but one day had "Malware" and WIN 10 shutdown my whole computer. Closed up all it's drivers on me. I had to have it completely clean out now it's running robust. Now, I'm getting sucked into this again. I realize I don't have a choice in the matter but I really didn't like the setup given momentarily. It stinks.......when your computer is running like a charm and had to pour money into buying a new Apple to get out of WIN 10 if I have no choice.

Matches my recent experience exactly. Not until my 2nd computer got the appointment did I find the Cancel button. Now we will do one computer at a time, paying heed to your advice. Not a nice surprise from Microsoft.

The easiest way to prevent the installation of Windows 10 is to install the "Never10" application from Gibson Research Corporation, www.grc.com/never10.

It's quick and easy, and will allow you to get back the 5GB or so of installation files that Micro$oft has already downloaded to your PC.

Am now running Win 7. If I do surrender to the nagging 'free' Microsnot Win 10 offer, will it adversely affect my data files and purchased 3rd party software? Is it safe to press the OK button or do I have to take protective steps first and what are they? Thank you.

Why is Win 10 free? in this world you don't get anything for nothing so there must be something worth M'softs benevolence that we will need and pay for in the future.
My pal has Win 10 and he says that some prog's don't work with it, and others have been deleted by W10, whatever it looks like we will all be forced onto Win10 when support for 7 & 8.5 is stopped as support for XP was stopped, and M'soft know that we cannot continue running out of date systems like XP because of the increased threat of nasties and then no doubt for people who did not take the free offer and miss the deadline W10 will be expensive

I've been following Woody Leonards column for a few years. By holding off on WU for a few weeks he's been able to know which updates not to download. Since the GWX console, I've been able to stop the W10 malware. I have no intention of upgrading,W7/64 is good till 2020. Then I'll worry about a new desktop,and 10 should be running better.

I'd like to second the plug for Never 10, available (Free) from www.grc.com/never10

Effectively this is a simple switch to block automatic installation of W10. You can tell it to never install W10, and then if you change your mind later you can go ahead.

W7 does all I need and more besides. I'm not opposed to change, and will change when it suits me. But not before. In four years W10 should have stabilised properly and I won't mind paying for it once the hassles have been ironed out.

Gyppo (UK)

WOW!!! MS must really be desperate!!! They brag about the number of W10 installs, but never about the number of roll-backs. After 2020, I might install the Zorin OS, if it is still around and stable. Bye-Bye MS!!! Who needs Windows??? I sure don't.

Interesting timing to read your article. I woke up TODAY to Windows 10 on my desktop. The only way I could avoid installing it was to not accept the install. Then, it said that it would revert back to Win7 but that it could take a good deal of time. Not trusting that reversal process, I ended up clicking, "ok." At any rate, I'm just going to go with it, at least for now. But I've saved all your articles on Win10 in case I need them to revert back. Thanks, Bob.

What really bugs me about the constant "install Windows 10 now" nag is that I ran the compatibility test on my PC and it is not possible to run Windows 10 on it. Still get the nag though, but then, when did Microsoft ever care about annoying their customers?

Already installed Ubuntu. Went for dual boot, but Vista won't boot anymore. Don't care, since Ubuntu can access the Vista files. Life is good!

Go to Steve Gibson's site, just search Google for "Shields Up". He has written "Never 10" it will not only stop all the MS BS it will remove 10 if it has already downloaded. NOTE: I said downloaded, not installed. Just FYI.

To respond to Phil's question:

The 3GB download refers to your data limit on downloads for your ISP.
If you exceed your monthly quota there will be a charge for the download, otherwise it is free.

NOTE: If anyone gets crammed on a W10 download, you can switch back within 30 days quite easily. I have done this myself on an older computer.

IMO, W10 is better than W8, but personally, I liked w7x64 or W7 pro the best.

You may want to disable or tweak W10, it is quite pushy on spy functions. I have disabled several functions, and run keystroker and malwarebytes premium, and am happy with these programs.

In an earlier newsletter, Bob, you referred to the KB3035583 "upgrade" and how to get rid of it; well I removed it...but find that it is **back**. I have "uninstalled" it but see that it's hanging around as an _optional_ update. This is why I don't let Microsoft automatically download & install updates. I check every day and now pay particular attention to each update, important, recommended, **or** optional. Have now tried www.grc.com/never10.

Thanks for the heads up on the latest in the W10 "saga".

I also rejected the upgrade but now Windows 7 crashes and says no internet connection( when there is), so it is becoming increasingly difficult to use.

I couldn't find KB3035583 to save my life. Sorry.