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Steve of the Dunes
26 Mar 2013

I have Windows Vista or 7 on 4 computers.When I built my last computer about 1 1/2 years ago,I put 7 on it.I was about 6 months after they came out with 8.I bought a laptop for my Daughter for Chirstmass it had 8 on it,and I hate it and so does she.It reminds me of Linxs,but that is free.I don't care about touch screen,and if your monitor is not touch screen you can't use it.I don't like how you have to search to get into your computer with 8.My next O.S.,is Linxs.Or how ever its spelled!

Posted by:

Eddie
26 Mar 2013

People complaining about Windows 8 just haven't spent enough time with it. For most users it's no different than Windows 7. You don't need a touch screen. It installs much more easily than older operating systems and certainly requires less of a learning curve than any form of Linux. I installed Windows 8 on my desktop PC and my laptop. Both installations (quickly) completed with no need to install drivers. Windows installed all of them for me! I was impressed. Here's my caution though about one feature of Windows 8 that I think is particularly dangerous: By default Windows 8 installs with a feature called "Fast Startup." It appears to be a form of shutting down the computer that doesn't really shut it down but caches open programs in RAM. That's why starting up a Windows 8 computer is so fast. It makes one think that Microsoft really got it right this time, because with "Fast Startup" running, the computer starts up like a rabbit. But it's a cruel trick. It's not a problem if your computer only has one hard drive. But if you have two or more drives with operating systems in your computer, please make sure to disable "Fast Startup" or you will almost certainly end up corrupting one or both operating systems.

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james
26 Mar 2013

Great article Bob! But it would be nice if you become more familiar with win 8 and publish articles on their limitations and inneficient ways of accomplishing simple tasks. I purchased a new laptop and even bought the book "win 8 for dummies" and spent 2 month with the laptop and was able to operate it and do most of my work; BUT IT WAS A NIGHTMARE!

I took it back to the store when I received aPDF and could not print it ( can't say I didn't give it a chance) directly from that window. Instead i had to go back to the other side to the fake win7 and print from there. Why go to so many steps just to print a PDF the most common doc? I was convinced to buy from sellers that said it was great and that win 7 was there also. Apparently they did not understand the program well and when I took my PDF print problem they did not know how to solve it.

This software was designed for a phone and tablet but not for a PC and even though it works with a mouse is awkward and not efficient! If you try to buy a new PC from any store they will only sell you a win8 because they are being forced by MS to do so unless they have some of the old stock still with win7 which has been scooped very rapidly to extinction. I discovered that if you buy from Dell in their business section most Pc's will be win7 but the price will be higher than win8 PC;s. You get what you pay for.

For me since I have a win7 PC once they no longer support it will be time for a Mac since i will lose all my software specially my home brewed through the years.

I agree with the comments of changing to another OS or to MAc I think we have stood long enough the MS abuse and since most of us (specially big businesses)will lose their PC (need more power) and software and have to star new anyway why not get out of their grip and let someone else have a chance. NOT A WAY TO TREAT CUSTOMERS!

All of you out there thinking of buying a new PC watch for the following:
1. Don't get lured with low price PC's (like $249 prior comment)you can bet is a Win 8
2. Make sure you understand what you are getting into when considering Win8, its not pretty! Work on someones computer that has it and try to do the common task you normally do including viewing pics, videos, surfing, changing OS settings, burning, downloading docs specially PDF's and trying to print from the screen that opens it, E_Mail, reloading old software, backing up etc.
3. Yor PC may have to include more memory and a more expensive processor than you really need for your work just to carry your OS.
4. Don't get sold a unit by a young Jock seller that is used to a smart phone and tablets and rarely goes into a desktop or laptop and think its great because they use in on other devices.

Anyway I think you get the point and i really gave it a chance by buying the book and even taking a couple of classes just to hear the teacher say you could not print in Win8. I think he meant unless you transfer to the fake win 7 included. Its like you are working in a bizarre world and continually you have to change to a normal world (fakeWin7)to be able to complete your task.

Its ridiculous to have to work with two systems and now programmers are coming up with ways to make Win8 look and work like Win7 like adding the start button. Its crazy. Stay with your system till it dies and if they stop the support like Bob says get a good security software and continue your work.
Good luck to all and be careful but for sure give this some serious consideration.

Posted by:

joe7777
26 Mar 2013

Hi all. I am running about 7 computers and all are XP except 1, which is Windows 7. I have replaced all the hardrives on each of the computers by using a clone software so I did not loose a stitch. I use high quality malware protection and practice careful surfing. I plan to keep the XP machines XP and the Windows 7 machine as Windows 7 until I have an unfixable hardware failure on one or all of the machines.

Posted by:

Clarence
26 Mar 2013

You don't happened to mention those so called 1% of us folks who can't upgrade to Win 8 because our CPU lacks trhe NX extension. I have two systems running P4 3.0 gig CPUs that don't have this extension. I have the installation disks for Win 8 and it won't install. Just copies and bails after starting the install. Not being a money bags, I can't enough a new computer now and in the forseeable future so I'm stuck with Win 7 till it runs out. Great movie MS!

EDITOR'S NOTE: It's possible your hardware supports NX, but the BIOS has it turned off. Might be worth a quick look in the BIOS settings. Could also be that your BIOS doesn't support the NX setting and your hardware does. If so, upgrading your BIOS would solve that problem.

Posted by:

John Pettett
26 Mar 2013

Windows 8 is diabolical. There are software conflicts, driver mismatches and very little help. At this relatively early stage you are just a guinea pig. Leave it alone for quite a while is my best advice.

Posted by:

Connor
26 Mar 2013

Probably 60% of our schools computers still use XP. Its shocking. Other schools in Australia also are very largely still relying on XP. I have Windows 7 on my laptop and am not planning on moving to Windows 8 anytime soon. Everything works fine, I am NOT willing to re-install anything and this machine is nothing like a tablet or a touchscreen (ASUS Gaming Computer :P )

LONG LIVE XP!

Posted by:

snert
26 Mar 2013

I'm running XP Pro and I'm happy with it. I've got it tweaked to the T - just the way I like it. I MIGHT go to W7 but I'll be dipped head first in nastiness before I go to W8. And I don't need, don't want and have no use for a touchscreen as I'm pretty derned satisfied with my tower pc with multiple monitors, dual GPUs, wireless keyboard/mouse, water cooler for CPU and RAM, and my ability to dig around in my computer and change/upgrade anything that I can afford to without buying a new case. I'd like to know if all the handy-dandy apps I use can run under W8? Probably not. And I'll bet most of my games won't, either.

Posted by:

misterfish
26 Mar 2013

Hi
I will stay with XP for now, but have just bought a laptop with 7. It is sooooo frustrating trying to get to grips with a system designed by some %%%%% who thinks that change is the same as progress. Same goes for Office 2010, used only when clients send me documents in docx format (and I usually cut the doc and paste it into 97 which I know. These upgrades are fine for those with no pressing need to continue earning their living without time out to learn new systems.
Rather than go to Win8 I'll seriously consider Linux or a Mac - yeah, takes some learning to change, but it might as well be time spent on a product from people who actually have a clue what their customers want.
Rant over. Almost - how did we ever let MS get so powerful that they tell us what is good for us?

Posted by:

Michael Meder
27 Mar 2013

I've been loyal to the "IBM Comptible" computers for a very long time, but with the direction that Windows8 is taking, I am finding it much easier to make the jump to ... a Mac. I have already jumed to an iPad (which I am typing on now), and my bride has made the jump to a Mac Air. I am helping her with a lot of the learning curve for her Mac, and there wasn't anywhere near to the curve that it used to be. I can do nearly everything I need to do on the iPad, except lots of long term archive storage. Evernote solves many of those problems, however. And, let me plug Evernote here: save everything for as long as you like, always online.

Posted by:

David Baker
27 Mar 2013

This reply I'm writing on a 10yr. old Gateway Desktop running XP. It's been a great workhorse. I also own a Samsung Netbook which runs the Windows 7 Starter software, which runs flawless too. I'm going to hold on to the Gateway until it fails or the loss of XP support. By that time I'll just buy a new computer. I've worked with Windows 8 which is slick too. I'm not afraid of an upgrade.

Posted by:

jkcook
27 Mar 2013

Happily using my Win8 laptop now that I've installed the "Classic Shell" from Source Forge so I can finally find things!!

Posted by:

Bonnie W
28 Mar 2013

I run virtual XP on my Windows 7 computer. Does Windows 8 have that feature?

Posted by:

Bryan
29 Mar 2013

I agree with Eddie I have win 8 on my new p c and find it great if you right click the icons where the start button used to be you will see the "start" so what's the difference .I still run xp on a old p c that wont install win 8 so will keep it till it karks all together a lot of my wife's game wont play in win 7 or 8 anyway .

Posted by:

Anton M
29 Mar 2013

XP orphan, just another way to force customer to buy a new computer, I call that robbery.

Posted by:

Dave
30 Mar 2013

Well, I'm old school -- I don't (get paid ) or have the time to learn new stuff ! Whatever happened to " if it ain't broke -Don't fix it ? ! " I guess , next time I'll spend a little more and try a MAC --- I don't have the time or the patience to learn new every year .As someone else said --change is not always progress ! I want my systm to run THE SAME , till the machine croaks,--or I do .... Whichever comes first !

Posted by:

Clive
01 Apr 2013

Please, can someone tell me how to revert back to my Win 7. This Win8 is horrible. It may look good on a tablet or phone, but it's a disaster in a pc. If anyone hasn't changed over yet...take my advice..DON'T.

Posted by:

Iskowitz
08 Apr 2013

Have been playing around with putting Ubuntu on a laptop to test it out and think once I get used to the differences I will probably transition my older XP machines to A Linus version. Seemed to run the laptop I put it on much faster than I would have expected and it should work fine.

Posted by:

Jim
08 Jul 2013

I don't mind progress or innovation, but over the last few years, we have had so many things (computer operating systems included) crammed down our throats for the sake of "progress " and "innovation" that I am so sick of it I could just....well, you get the point.

I tried Window 8 on a laptop a while back and found it 'interesting'. Sorry, just not immpressed.

Since then, I have acquired 2 laptops and a desktop (that I built) and they all run Windows 7 (no choice with the laptops). As it stands, I have no problems with my Windows 7 machines and I'll hang on to Win 7 as long as I have a "choice". I'll eventually have to make the switch, but as long as I have a choice, I'll stick with what works.

Final thought, "Quit trying to shove 'new and improved' down my throat. I may just regurgitate it back on you!"

Posted by:

Psmith
10 Sep 2013

I have W-7 on a laptop. I hate it's imposed screwed up directory structures, and pseudo files that are confusing to work with. Security is also clumsy and causes users to waste far too much time on it's issues. I bought the laptop for business but never used it for business. It just wasted too much of my time and newer W-7 compatible software would also have been costly.

XP is on the desktop and I like it. I have also been running Linux on the W-7 laptop for about 4 years.

I will never buy another MS product. I found Linux to be quite user friendly. Learning Linux wasn't any worse than figuring out how MS reshuffled the old OS to create a "new OS".

There were few things thing that held me back from switching to Linux entirely arising from my business requirement. One of those hurdles has been eliminated with the business popularity of pdf files that replaced MS doc and xls file for sharing information. The other hurdle was I couldn't find a data base to replace Access easily. Just recently I found that Open Office has introduced a similar data base.

Switching my business use from MS to Linux will still be a bit of a hassle but so will reloading and in many cases repurchasing W-9 compatible software. Changing software every 5 years is bad enough, but having to pay serious amounts of money to do it just doesn't seem to fit the natural order of nature.

In general, over the past 4 years, Linux just keeps getting better and MS just gets worse.

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