Windows XP: Game Over? - Comments Page 2

My surgeon's office (which has 9 doctors of different specialties) is all running XPs - as a matter of fact, Its a branch office, of many, of a Hospital based in a the western part of a state (I'm not saying which state because they must have 1000s who pay their bill with credit cards.)
I told them about it but seems like I'm talking to the wall.

I was thinking of taking the risk and keeping XP--I can't afford a switch. I am going to try Linux one of these days, but I may still use XP after April 8th. I was thinking that the worst that could happen would be that my computer became unusable, so I will make sure to back up daily, BUT IS THERE A MORE SERIOUS DANGER that I'm not thinking about?

I just got WiFi for the first time, so I'm especially paranoid. Assuming that there are people poised to attack me :), am I in any real danger of having my email accounts accessed or having my personal information stolen because of the end of support for XP? Thanks.

EDITOR'S NOTE: Yes, I'd say there is a real danger. Even more so if you are using Wifi that doesn't require a password, but that's a separate issue.

I'm cashing in and moving to Costa Rica. Adios
Newspapers, radio, TV, the internet---it's all the same-just another advertising medium. 50% commercials and 95% Re-runs.

I've known about Microsoft dropping support of XP for a while now. I have a couple of old XP systems that will not support upgrading to Win 7 so I decided to install Ubuntu (13.10) on one of them as a test. I first went with a dual OS of Windows XP and Ubuntu. That didn't workout so well as Ubuntu never completed the install, so I decided to just run with Ubuntu. The install seemed to go fine and everything looks great. I start up the system and the Ubuntu logo comes on and the system asks for my password, once I type in the PW and hit enter the screen goes black and just sits there. So far most of the 'support' forums I've seen are totally useless. Of course it makes it tough when you are trying to explain an error with no error message and on an OS that you are completely unfamiliar with. Just an FYI in case you think Ubuntu will be your savior. Yes, it's free, but you usually get what you pay for. And I wouldn't even attempt this unless I had a second PC I could still access the internet with for support. (think of 'support' as a bunch of whanks giving useless info without explanation)

EDITOR'S NOTE: I think it's fair to say your experience with Ubuntu is not typical. Millions of people use it, and many of them on older computers. Yours sounds like a problem with your graphics adapter. Use Speccy to get the make & model of your graphics adapter, then search for that and Ubuntu.

What is an unemployed and broke person supposed to do? I can't afford to upgrade & I can't afford to stay off the internet. What do you suggest?

EDITOR'S NOTE: Try Ubuntu with the Windows installer (http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/install-ubuntu-with-windows) You can try out Ubuntu Linux without partitioning your hard drive, and you can switch back to Windows by restarting your PC.

I have some specialized Media Center computers that run XP and an old XP machine I use for a file server. Is there some way to configure the networking on these machines so that the computer can't get any communication from the Internet, but could still communicate over my home network? Wouldn't that configuration (if possible) protect the XP computers while still allowing them to be functional?

EDITOR'S NOTE: You should be able to login to the router and disable Internet for those computers.

Bob ... Just a personal note ... I listened to what Steve Gibson said, about Windows XP and his decision to keep using it. First of all, this show was about security and I know, that Gibson has some of the best security suggestions, on the planet. He is a genius, with computer codes and computers, in general. He didn't say not to migrate to a "safer" Windows, just that for him, he felt that there was more hype to this overall, than was necessary.

Let me back step ... There were 2 questions asked by viewers of Leo LaPorte's podcast on Security Now and very valid ones. Steve was responding to those 2 questions, with their specific issues. Steve felt that under their conditions, it would be alright, for them to continue to use Windows XP, since, neither viewer were going to use these computers on the Internet. They were basically used for business and only in the their own environment. It made sense to me, with what he said.

Now, Steve himself, will not be migrating to another Windows OS ... He has himself, pretty well covered. Leo LaPorte happened to have disagree with him, on this issue. It was a real pleasure to hear their discussion on this topic, I must say!

These 2 men, have the greatest respect for each other's knowledge and I have always loved, when they "argue" the fine points of issues! It truly is a wonderful debate, to hear ... Plus, it is always with respect. Something, all of us on the Internet could learn from ... Proper Internet Etiquette ... Respect for others opinion. Sorry, I got off track, thinking about so many Political and/or Controversial websites, where Flaming and Rudeness is the Norm.

Anyway, Steve was supporting the individuals who asked their questions, not to upgrade Windows XP to Windows 7 or above. He just happen to mention, that he felt there was more hype, to this issue, than necessary and would not be upgrading himself. As Leo LaPorte said ... We will see, in a couple of weeks, where the truth lays.

It is the OS that is losing support. Nearly all exploits are against browsers and programs like Flash and Java. Also, studies show that 100% of browser exploits and ~80% of other exploits are blocked simply by NOT running as an administrator. 1. Run as a normal user (not Administrator), 2. Delete Java (okay to run Java Script and Flash in a browser), 3. Run a modern browser--the versions of Internet Explorer that will run on XP are NOT modern--so use Firefox (with the NoScript add in) or Chrome, 4. Keep everything updated and 5. Stay out of the dark corners of the Internet. If you do these simple things, you should be reasonably safe. Or, you could update to Windows 7 or 8.1 (Win 8's bad rep is largely undeserved)--but you should also still do steps 1 thru 5.

EDITOR'S NOTE: In life, it's the "nearly" and the "reasonably" that'll get you. :-)

Bob - would installing a VPN on an XP machine provide the needed protected internet accessibility post Apr-08? Products that I have researched include "Sophos UTM Home Edition" and "TunnelBear". My nascent understanding of these services is: they offer secure, encrypted access to their servers and that one's internet surfing is then routed through their secure servers which in conjunction with your box having current AV and firewall should keep out most of the nasties?

EDITOR'S NOTE: That may protect your web browsing, but as I mentioned, "Your web browser is just one of many attack vectors" and "some exploits, such as security holes in browsers, buffer overrun issues, or other flaws in Windows components, can't be mitigated by your anti-virus or firewall protection."

I've got a new i5 CPU and am trying to use Ubuntu 13.10 with Virtualbox, a free virtual machine program running Windows 7 and am trying to find programs in Linux that is equivalent to the windows programs I am currently using so I could slowly migrate to Ubuntu.
Installing Ubuntu was pain free and took around 30 mins for the basic package which have a word processing, spreadsheet and presentation software which can open and save into Microsoft office format. Very good Firefox browser packed in installation. No issue atall with that.
They have an Ubuntu app center something like playstore in Android devices and you can search for r programs there.
The issue I am having is getting the drivers for my printer and scanner for Ubuntu right.

I've been quite happy with Windows 7 and 8 on my desktops. Nevertheless, for my eight year old laptop (IDE drive, a single core processor, XP, and an unused upgrade license for Vista) I'm thinking Ubuntu may be a more appropriate investment than any Windows product.

Bob, I have some legacy programs that won't run in Win 7 so I run them in a Windows XP Virtual Window. None of them need to connect to the internet. Is there a way to disable the internet connection for the XP Virtual Window without disabling it for the Win 7 host?