A Free Windows XP Alternative - Comments Page 4

Thank you Bob - I have successfully side-stepped the donation and find myself in the middle of a 5-6 hour download (slow here in S/E Asia)using Firefox who have asked me to 'save' the download to ISO. I will let you know how I get on - I am sure our discussion will be of great interest to those who said that they found Ubuntu difficult.

Good tip! I made the switch to Ubuntu and then moved on the Linux Mint (currently using Petra).
There is little or no loss of functionality and you'll be very pleased with how efficiently the Linux distributions use disk space. All are free. Install is not quite a simple as Windows but very doable and you'll be pleased with the performance you get.

Because the Windows Installer did not download after a few minutes I clicked the 'click here' under
Ubuntu Desktop ( and why woudn't I as I want a desktop of commands? ) but this took me to a download which required the ISO exercise. As the standard CD-R is 700MB I soon realized my mistake when the Burn system failed to start, etc.; trying again was successful with the Windows Installer.

I thought great - all the nice explanatory pictures and especially the lovely Libre Office. However, when trying to open Firefox I realized - I need to be connected to the Internet only to find that Ubuntu does not like wireless modems and
failed to recognize two of mine.

All day on Google proved that Ubuntu is not for me as I do not have a degree in computer engineering because that it what is needed to get me online

(continued) and now understand why all of the XP diehards have not migrated to Ubuntu. Ho hum - off to try to get a US company to sell and despatch me a Win7 pc or laptop to me here in Bali (now that will be a miracle)

bob! been reading your daily letter for many years and have benefitted from a great many of them...

i have an old lenovo laptop that runs XP. so, i read with interest your article on ubuntu, it seemed innocuous, and pretty straight forward. so, i installed it. now, when i go back (at boot up) to XP, it hangs... every time, tho sometimes at log in and sometimes just after it... what's up with that? HELP!

i find it interesting, that with all of the comments posted to date on this very important topic, mr. rankin has not commented in response... what's up with THAT?

EDITOR'S NOTE: Hmmm, so far I've replied to 16 of the 64 comments posted here. Anyway, are you saying that XP starts to boot, and then hangs at or after you login? Or is it Ubuntu that hangs?

Got a new computer and was Introduced to Ubuntu by a friend. No problem installing, using, and finding new programs.The problem I got was installing the printer ans scanner. After a week I got the printer going. Now I still can't get Ubuntu to recognize my scanner. The Ubuntu community and Forum was quite helpful but got to be very patient.

bob- apologies for the dig... was expecting to see a post from you rather than edits to the comments... i spoke out of turn. no offense...

so, on my machine, ubuntu is a little flukey and sometimes won't come back from hybernation requiring a re-boot... that and it's unfamiliar environment and quirks make it less than satisfying to use up to this point. and, i can't seem to get it to install my printer or scanner.

however, the main problem is my inability to now get XP to run, when i choose it at the boot prompt. it hangs: either before log in, or just after it.
wondering how i can uninstall ubuntu and if i do, will i be also unable use XP? grrrrr!

thoughts? (ps- i purposely do not use capitals except for titles - been doing email and blog posts that way for over 10 years... just how i roll.)

EDITOR'S NOTE: If you installed Ubuntu via the Windows Installer, you can uninstall it with Windows Control Panel's Add/Remove Programs option. Ubuntu shouldn't affect any part of your Windows OS, but if you still have problems after the uninstall, try a System Restore.

First, you wrongly assumed that we all had "newer" machines. That is soo wrong. If we are running XP, that would probably mean we have older machines!
That said, DO NOT try to instal Ubuntu unless you know a little about DOS. It took us 3 days to figure it out. Get Linus Mint. Get one of the older versions and let it update itself. Almost like Windows.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I didn't assume that at all. In fact, I often recommend Ubuntu for older machines, that may lack that the RAM or CPU horsepower to run newer versions of Windows. Ubuntu installed just fine on my 8-year old Gateway machine...

I started reading your great article and thought to myself, I can't wait to see the comments. Free doesn't mean easy people. I've been into computers for 20+ years and have learned over the years that a computer is like a car. It's only as good as the operator. Ubuntu is easy once you adapt to it. Human beings just don't like to adapt. they want it done for them, their way.

Thanks Bob. I've always had an urge to try Linux, but all the comments about printers and modems having problems bothers me. I've been quite busy at work, and have not had the time to deal with my desktop XP predicament. Thankfully I have a laptop installed with Windows 7 ( which I hate). I like my desktop and still prefer it over my laptop. Any thoughts and the printer/scanner/modem problems?

Back again Bob, you do a fine job. Here's more help: http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/770346-how-to-install-and-try-linux-the-absolutely-easiest-and-safest-way

Bob
Would I have a problem using AutoCad 2014 on Ubuntu?

EDITOR'S NOTE: Yes. See http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=86

Bob, I've been using various editions of Ubuntu for about 6 yrs now. I use W7HP a well. I really like the Ubuntu OS. But it does have a few minor drawbacks. The learning curve is a little bit of a pain and unless you have time it's just easer to stay with a Windows OS. That said if Microsoft continues with the OS screw-ups like 8 has been it'll be a lot easer to stay with Ubuntu. I keep a hard drive available with Ubuntu on it "just in case" something happens to my Windows on my notebook.

I downloaded Ubuntu but when I try to run I get "Windows cannot open this file, Windows needs to know what program created it" Where do I get such program? I have XP-SP3 - 32 bit.

EDITOR'S NOTE: Ubuntu is not a Windows program. It's a complete and separate operating system -- an alternative to Windows or Mac OS X . In short, you'll need to burn the file you downloaded to a CD, then use it as an installation disc. You should be able to find instructions for that on the page where you downloaded Ubuntu.

I prefer Linux Mint over Ubuntu but in both cases people need to keep in mind that the latest versions of both with all the interface updates to compete with Windows and MacOS demand a lot of resources. As mentioned by someone previously, if your hardware is lacking, use an older version of one of the Linux distributions. If you go to Puppy Linux you can actually run it just off memory without even installing to the hard drive. As far as the drivers questions, it's impossible to give a hard and fast answer. I've found that some hardware combinations seem to have all the right drivers available, and on others you have to search long and hard. It really just depends on whether someone in the Linux world has tried your combination of hardware before and created the necessary files. For this situation I've found Linux Mint to be much more complete in most cases. If it doesn't work out of the box, find the forums related to your distribution and first search, then if you don't find anything, ask. I've found Linux people very willing to help, but they do expect you to do your homework and not just walk in with your hand out and expect all the answers provided immediately.

If anyone is still monitoring this thread...I'm going insane. As Einstein said "keep doing the same thing over, etc, etc"
I've downloaded several distros, three different computers, been to 20 or so forums, spent 3 hrs a day for a week trying to get this to work. Install goes ok, boot to Linux and get a text screen (BugBox) which tells me, in so many words, fix my computer...run chkdsk /r and try again. I've done this countless times. Still the same result. You all make it sound so easy! What am I doing wrong?? I'm hating Linux at this point.

TL, I just answered to help bring attention to your question. I figured 2 comments in the sidebar are easier to notice.

I haven't tried Linux yet myself.

Linux Mint is laid out more like Windows than Ubuntu is. Mint is built on Ubuntu and has more software drivers than Ubuntu. Mint works on a wider variety of computers due to the extra drivers.
For people with a really old computer, there are versions of Linux that will run on 512MB of RAM or even 256MB or RAM, and less for a few versions. Distrowatch.com has LOTS of downloadable versions. Do a search (link at top) and check 'Linux' for OS Type, 'old computers' for Distribution Category, and i386 through i686 for Architecture. Leave the rest at ALL and Active for Status. That will show you all the versions that run on very old computers. There is a picture of the desktop so you can see the layout. A live CD lets you try a version without installing it. You boot off the CD or DVD. You can make sure it works on your computer before installing.

If you have 1Gig of RAM or more you don't need a version of Linux for old computers. Just use Mint. It is the most popular for a reason. It has the taskbar at the bottom like Windows and has the Start menu (Menu on Linux) in the same lower left position, etc.

I am currently using Win XP in Virtual mode on a Win 7 machine, only because I have some old legacy programs that won't run on Win 7. Would they run on Ubuntu? I'm fine with Win XP not being updated by MS, but is there a way to shut the Virtual XP off from the internet without also shutting it off for Win 7. Nothing that I do in XP needs the internet. If I could keep it from contact with the internet, I wouldn't need to worry about security threats.

I downloaded the Crunchbang iso to a CD and loaded it on my old laptop.
Wifi and printer work fine, not scanner.
Also doesn't look like XP. It has a blank desktop and you rightclick to get a menu.