DoublePulsar: The Undetectable Backdoor - Comments Page 1

OMG!!! This is really bad and goes to show the world that even the NSA and other high-security agencies are simply NOT safe!!!

My thought when I was reading this, did Hackers really get this program by hacking OR did someone sell out the NSA for money??? Cyber-Spying is also on the rise. I know, my thinking was on the line of a spy novel - However, the truth is sometimes so much stranger than fiction - Right???

There are too many workers in Cyber-Security with high-level security that honestly need money, want to "hurt" their country and to be very honest - Easily could be spies from another country wanting to ruin the country they are working for.

Look at this, from a recent action in a high-level security facility. This person was "caught" just within the month.

"Reality Leigh Winner was accused of gathering, transmitting or losing defense information — the first criminal charge filed in a leak investigation during the Trump administration." This was taken from a news report in The Washington Poston June 5th of 2017.

Please, I am NOT being political - I am honestly really concerned about what is happening around the world today!!!

Thank you, Bob!!! It is vital that we know what to do when bad, bad, bad programs get out to hurt a country, businesses, and individuals.

This does NOT sound good at all!!! Yes, our individual PCs, Laptops, and other computerized devices very easily could be compromised. I worry the most about Businesses, Hospitals, Libraries, Infrastructures like the Electric Grid and so on, Government Top Secrets, especially those that involve more Cyber secrets and so on!!!

Now, those who get your newsletter are aware and will do something about it. What about our Top Level Government Cyber-Units??? They don't tend to do what is really needed to be done to protect their files and information. Neither do Businesses or Hospitals.

Look at all the hospitals that have been infected with Ransomware??? They literally are the worst in cyber-protection.

Again - Thank you, Bob - For the warning and what to do about it. This fan always appreciates what you do for your followers and anyone who want to learn and to regconize a problem.

A comment for you Bob.

Rather than just mention Microsoft has updates it would be helpful if you provided a link or links to the updates. Especially for those still using XP.
The updates for XP are on the Microsoft website but they have to be manually downloaded. They are not available for XP by the windows update procedure.

My last PC was destroyed when Microsoft shoved Windows 10 - disguised as an "automatic update" onto everyone's machine.

I will NEVER again allow them the chance to do that again. There are still ongoing lawsuits from individuals and businesses against Microsoft for that irresponsible action.

I screen every update now before it is installed on my pc.

Perhaps it is time for our congress to impose some stiff penalties in these hacker scammers? They seem to have a law for everything else. When a ransomware creep asks for a credit card to pay their ransom, you cannot tell me they cannot be found.

Thank you, Bob, for keeping us up-to-date with this ultra important news.

The punishment for anyone involved with ransomware should be 25 years to life. No physical organization could ever rob people of so much.

@CtPaul- yes, that's a good move. Do NOT trust automatic updates. Several Windows 7 important updates are KNOWN detriments to the system. People should really take the time to review ALL updates before installation. But that's not the world we live in- everything's instant gratification nowadays. NEVER, EVER TRUST M$!!!...RESEARCH!!!

I'm surprised only two replies of people who "know better" than MS. Are their updates perfect? Of course not, but I personally would rather risk a bad update (I have had only one or two in over 20 years and none serious)) than allow hackers access to an unprotected system. I do receive Susan Bradley's Windows Secrets recommendations for update installation, but really don't delay any other than the original update to Win 10. The Creator's update was never pushed to my system until it was ready- the installation "tried" a few times, but never succeeded until it was ready for prime time.

As I know, recently & in recent years, just about every entity has been hacked in part or as a whole or in someway: Anti-virus software makers like Kaspersky & others, government agencies like the NSA, Pentagon, states, cities etc; consumer like Target, restaurant chains, etc; Yahoo, the list is quite extensive.
It seems the safest that has not been hacked, is a private server that a person I know, was using it for years. Wish I knew the name of that server.

To CtPaul and Tim W: I have automatic updates, and I don't recall Windows 10 being automatically installed....just lots of suggestions that I do so. Am I misremembering? Also, I don't see how looking at each update before allowing it would be of use, as I probably would not know what I was looking at! I just now checked, using Bob's instructions, and I see that the last updates were installed June 13th.

My Win 10 pc gets corrupted EVERY TIME MicroSoft sends out new updates... I mean it corrupts a lot of my software and messes up my Magic Jack software until I re-install it again. There is a way to control when the updates get downloaded, (MS is soooo overbearing!!!!) but I have not yet discovered it. In the meantime I dread MS updates.
( Can you help about this, Bob??)

I'd put a link in but I don't know if Bob would like it...
Just Google Microsoft updates for XP

Security Update for Windows XP SP3 (KB4012598)

Version:
4012598
File Name:
WindowsXP-KB4012598-x86-Custom-ENU.exe
Date Published:
5/15/2017
File Size:
666 KB

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-hardware/upgrade-10-class-action-lawsuit/cd4bfca3-e297-479a-a7fd-94bdf765dcc9

Dear Kenneth Heikkila: Maybe you should go to thye Microsoft Forum website, and read a few of these thousands of complaints!

Upgrade 10 Class Action LawSuit

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LisaCapaci started on August 14, 2015See post history
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Is there an attorney or firm interested in pursuing a class action suit? There are thousands of computers that have been rendered useless after being upgraded to Windows 10 through "automatic updates" and left with 1. no sound, 2. no operating screen time 3. no access (password issues) 3. memory issues 4. lost files 5. unauthorized access by Microsoft.

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CraigPyron replied on September 10, 2015See post history
windows 10 bricked both my laptop and desktop. i'm ready for the class action lawsuit.

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LilBro replied on September 10, 2015See post history
In my opinion, you may be able to do not only a civil action but also a possible criminal action under theft of services, vandalism, etc. I doubt you'll find any takers here, but if you check around on Google there may be some who've led actions in the past. Perhaps even the EFF?

MS sometimes makes things so difficult! I have a metered internet connection, so I don't allow automatic updates - I need to manually download my updates during my "free" midnight-to-5am time frame. Why can't MS just have a "download now" button so I can just get them when I want - instead, I have to download them from a third-party and manually install them. Efficient. And, until I figured this out, I went for months with no updates, because I couldn't figure out how to get them. Safe. Thanks MS.

Strange how the Comments have morphed from topic of the article into a forum for slagging MS and it's updates. I don't know how the bitcoin system is controlled but it's got to be controlled from somewhere so it should be possible to shut down the Ransomware recipients accounts pretty quickly so as to make it no longer profitable for the excrement who perpetrate such malware, and it should also be possible to track the movement of the bitcoins and identify them. Then nail them! Floor, ceiling, wall or door, your choice.

Denis - half the article is about how "Conscientious [MS] consumers can protect themselves" with Windows updates - it is relevant to the conversation that MS doesn't always make updating easy, or even possible. And part of the whole deal with bitcoins is that it is *not* centralized, and yes - if users are cautious, transactions can be anonymous: https://www.wired.com/2012/05/fbi-fears-bitcoin/.

After XP I upgraded to Linux and have had little trouble with any of my computers but also little info from you. Is this because there is nothing to complain about or are you just catering to MS?

As far as I am aware the only way of knowing if any software is secure is to use free open source software that has been created by free open source software (languages compilers etc), as it can be scrutinised.

The inverse of this, Proprietary software, cannot be scrutinised, as it's program code is re-coded (Linked and Compiled, so usually only readable by a computer ) and is protected by laws, so you have no idea what that software could be capable of doing.

Thanks to Mr Rankin for this(and all his other help),and to the other readers who have written in.
Yes, the world is unsafe - the best most of us dummies can do is make it a little safer: backups, good AV (+ Malwarebytes and maybe HitmanPro), a safe browser, and discipline about what you click on.
Having been bitten by MS updates, I now only take security updates for W7: anyone who wants to do this will find the clearest instructions at https://www.askwoody.com/forums/topic/how-to-get-windows-7-up-to-date-and-keep-it-that-way/

I wonder if DP is detectable by AV software that uses whitelisting as the main detection technique. Hmm...